haha failed party? the republicans have failed everyone of every class, gender, race, qualification, merit, hardwork. They've failed every molecule, chromosome, mouth, tooth and fly in the fucking cosmos. If there were a Hell and christianity was the only correct religion (which it is not) you bet every one of you're idiot, hypocritical idols would burn there forever and ever. vote obama, asshole.

Direction Versus Direction Analysis.
The comparison of maximal transcription units over multiple prokaryotic genomes in order to identify functionally related gene clusters due to repeated chromosomal proximity.

One more thing: "Fetuses = persons means miscarriage = homicide" is not a sensible statement. A more clear and true statement is "Fetuses = persons means miscarriage = accidental death." The mother did not intend that the fetus die and she did nothing to cause it. If she did, than perhaps it would be homicide or man-slaughter, but in most cases, the mother did nothing to cause the death. I have a sister-in-law who suffered a miscarriage. She was at least temporarily inconsolable as was my brother. Their grief was as if they lost a child, because they DID. (now they have several btw and they're brilliant parents).

As for sentience, who the heck knows what a baby is thinking in or out of the womb? And as for chromosome count? Who cares? I've met several downs syndrome and several mildly retarded (MR) individuals (my parents work in social work) who have lived happy and productive lives.

Also Dgandhi, babies are not parasites, they are offspring. They might require a mother to allow them growth for nine months, but they are not an attack by an assailant (except in the case of rape I guess). They are a choice by [hopefully] responsible individuals and definitely by adults (or those who are sexually mature) nonetheless that requires attention and care to manage. If mom doesn't want to raise them, she can offer them up for adoption and many people will be in line to adopt him/her at a young age. I've known both adopted men and women and people who have giving children up for adoption. The former and the latter were both thankful and not regretful.

Fetuses = persons means miscarriage = homicide, anybody here supporting that?

The law says not born = not a person, simple criteria, other options for criteria exist, but nobody is really talking about implementing them.

We could go with brain waves, so then we are all legally obliged to be vegans ( I already am, so that's okay with me)

We could go with "sentience", which, as already mentioned humans are not born with.

We could go with chromosome count, in which case folks with downs syndrome don't count.

We could go with conception, thereby resulting in the complete state regulation of all female reproductive systems. Did she ovulate? Did it fertilize? Did it implant? Did she miscarry? These are all facts that the state MUST know in order to protect fetal human life, and the last two are, at least, man-slaughter, so get ready for a massive rise in the female inmate population.

Here's a nice little hypothetical I like to throw out: Let's say I see you in public being and asshole ( don't say not me, we have all done it) and I retaliate by jumping on your back and sucking your blood, which I now use as my only form of sustenance. We are both clearly human, we both clearly have human rights, I am clearly being a parasite, and it has clearly happened as a consequence of something you have done. Do I have the right to parasitize you? Do you have a right to stop me, even if your stopping me causes my death? Do you, in effect, have a right to self defense which over rides my right to enslave you? If so, how can a ball of cells over ride your rights, when an acknowledged person can not?

So she's ready to lead the nation, but not ready to face Bob Schefer on Face the Nation. Ready to sit down with world leaders, but not ready to talk to Stephenopolous. Ready to make critical life / death decisions with the nation's military, but not ready to have a chat with Diane Sawyer.

Makes perfect sense.

Ok, I did watch the whole thing, and I want my time back.

WTF, so was he human-ish? There was no DNA results other than to say some inconclusive chromosome test. If some cells have this and some have more, WTF? contantimation? Did they keep any DNA from him for modern testing?

>> ^nadabu:dgandhi, sorry, but nothing you can say will convince me to put animals on the same level as humans.

ditto on 46 chromosome parasites my friend.

>> ^LittleRed:
I agree. I am not speaking for anyone but myself when I say I am pro-life. I believe life starts at conception. Once the cells start dividing, life is being formed.

By the time the cells start dividing, life has been there for a while already. You realize sperm and egg are living cells, right? Or do you only care about life with 46 chromosomes?

K0MMIE: Best. Comment. EVAR.
Schmawy - also a great comment.
Laura - you kick ass. It's great to see someone without a Y chromosome saying shit like this is just stupid.

Although it's technically a different 'disease' or 'syndrome' to obesity, the people with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prader-Willi_syndrome Prader Willi Syndrome are fat, and have an excuse.

It's a horrible syndrome, A defect with chromosome 15 causes many things to not form properly in the body, and one of them is the lack of a signal from your stomach to the brain saying you're full, or even content, they're always "Starving".

>> ^lucky760:
And why are there never any videos of a girl taking a painful nutshot? Sexist much?
There's even nary a vid of girls taking a smash into the breasticles. I guess guys got all the dumdum chromosomes as they're obviously the least sensible of the species, always putting their sensitives in precarious situations.


You clearly don't play enough *actionpack volleyball.

Good times.

I cringe while watching this though. YOUCH indeed.

And why are there never any videos of a girl taking a painful nutshot? Sexist much?

There's even nary a vid of girls taking a smash into the breasticles. I guess guys got all the dumdum chromosomes as they're obviously the least sensible of the species, always putting their sensitives in precarious situations.

I'm sure some of us have seen this before, but I thought it fitting to post, and I had to type it out, because the copy I have is an image file. But this is What Evolution Is. Feel free to copy this and use it against any misguided individuals who believe, or agree, with the wonderful video above.

VARIATION:
1) Variation exists in all populations.
2) Some of that variation is heritable.
3) Base pair sequences are encoded in a set of self-replicating molecules that form templates for making proteins.
4) Combinations of genes that did not previously exist may arise via "Crossing over" during meiosis, which alters the sequence of base pairs on a chromosome.
5) Copying errors (mutations) can also arise, because the self-replication process is of imperfect (although high) fidelity; these mutations also increase the range of combinations of alleles in a gene pool.
SELECTION:
6) Some of that heritable variation has an influence on the number of offspring able to reproduce in turn, including traits that affect mating opportunities, or survival prospects for either individuals or close relatives.
7) Characteristics tend to become more common over generations if they tend to increase the number of an organism's offspring which are able to reproduce in turn, and tend to become rarer if they tend to decrease such prospects.
"Sampling errors" can occur in populations that alter the relative frequencies of alleles in the "recipient" population.
SPECIATION:
10) Populations of a single species that live in different environments are exposed to different conditions that can "favour" different traits. These environmental differences can cause two populations to accumulate divergent suites of characteristics.
11) The combination of these effects tends to increase diversity of life forms.
SUFFICIENCY:
12) Over the time frame from the late Hadean to the present, this becomes sufficient to explain the diversity of all life observed on Earth, both in what is directly seen at present, and indirectly through geologic evidence from the fossil record.

That's what Evolution IS. If you have a problem with Evolution, you have a problem with one or more of these twelve points. Which one is it? Provide evidence that any of the points are incorrect.

Note that Evolution does NOT indicate how the first life arose; that's a question of Autocatalytic Biochemistry, and largely dependant on the definition used to distinguish "alive" from "not-alive". Also, Evolution does NOT indicate that all variations are explained this way; that there are no other mechanisms by which variation may arise, be passed, or become prevalent; or that there is no other way life diversifies. Any and all of these may be valid topics for conjecture... But without evidence, they aren't science.

Other people's opinions, presented in the form of quotes, are not evidence against the theory of Evolution. They are merely opinions, and all people have opinions which turn out to be false. So lets' stick to the facts.

Yes, despite being a devout Catholic, and despite trying to remain loyal to the church, Galileo could not ignore the observations showing the sun at the centre of the solar system. The catholic church was of course teaching that the earth is the centre of creation and the universe (Aristotle). They persecuted Galileo. In later years, the catholic church recruited and funded astronomers which was the beginnings of the church using science for persuasion of its esoteric teachings which still goes on to this day. Today it's called Intelligent Design.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Galileo? Seriously?


In reply to this comment by Irishman:
"The Catholic church gets bashed on a lot and I'm never sure why."


The vatican staying silent about the holocaust during WWII,

Still teaching even today that HIV can pass through condoms in AIDS stricken Africa,

Covering up child abuse allegations, for example that of Father John Geoghan, accused of sexually molesting over 100 boys in the Archdiocese of Boston,

The persecution of Galileo, the inventor of the telescope,

The infamous brutal and violating interrogations directed at the suppresion of heresy,

In fact hundreds of years of years of persection, deceit, lies and social control; much of which can be levelled at any religion in the world. Take your pick.

The vatican's position on evolution does not explicity say that evolution is the most likely creation theory, only that "faith and scientific findings regarding the evolution of man's material body are not in conflict, though man is regarded as a 'special creation', and that the existence of God is required to explain the spiritual component of man's origins."

This is always worth saying: Science is a METHOD, not a position.

Galileo? Seriously?


In reply to this comment by Irishman:
"The Catholic church gets bashed on a lot and I'm never sure why."


The vatican staying silent about the holocaust during WWII,

Still teaching even today that HIV can pass through condoms in AIDS stricken Africa,

Covering up child abuse allegations, for example that of Father John Geoghan, accused of sexually molesting over 100 boys in the Archdiocese of Boston,

The persecution of Galileo, the inventor of the telescope,

The infamous brutal and violating interrogations directed at the suppresion of heresy,

In fact hundreds of years of years of persection, deceit, lies and social control; much of which can be levelled at any religion in the world. Take your pick.

The vatican's position on evolution does not explicity say that evolution is the most likely creation theory, only that "faith and scientific findings regarding the evolution of man's material body are not in conflict, though man is regarded as a 'special creation', and that the existence of God is required to explain the spiritual component of man's origins."

This is always worth saying: Science is a METHOD, not a position.